Monitoring CPU Temp

[MIKECLAN]

I've been trying to fix a heat problem on my wifes computer the last few weeks/months. I downloaded PC Wizard 2005 from CPU-Z website and installed it.

For Comparison, i also installed this program on my machine.

While running on mine, I can hit refresh and I get the same CPU Temp over time, maybe it varies by one degree. (I think it s 75 or 85 deg F)

My Wifes computer on the other hand, seems to vary wildly over time.

She's running a AMD 2100+ Chip (no overclocking), with one of these as the CPU Fan:
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50254543&pfp=BROWSE

The CPU Temps run like this over the course of a few min.
252c, 221c, 56c, 66c, 219c, 130c

Frankly, It seems to me that if its sitting at desktop, it should be keeping pretty steady. So I'm wondering if the processor is bad? Or the way its reading the Temp, or is the Fan doing something wierd and not keeping a steady speed?

From having the case open watching/listening to it, I don't Hear or See the fan speeding up or slowing down.


Anyone have any suggestions?

Is there a better CPU monitor out there somewhere?

[Goldenpaww]

Sounds more like a sensor problem possibly. I have an AMD CPU, and my motherboard has a safety shut off. If the CPU hits 85c, the system shuts down. There's no way the CPU could change temps like you have listed, and if it did hit 252c(449.6f) it would have fried well before that temp.

Find out what your motherboard is, I have an ASUS board, and they make there own program called ASUSprobe that reads out temps and fan speeds

only other thing I could think of is go into the bios of the system, it should show the temps in there also. If it fluxuates in there, it's probably an onboard sensor problem.

I personally did have a overheating problem with mine in the summertime and my system would shut down. I have one of these on it now and it works great.

http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=43&code=005009

[MIKECLAN]

If my notes are right, this is the MB in my wifes machine. I'll check it again when i get home.

http://www.matsonic.com/new/productsdata/ms8157e.htm

I'd gotten one of those Zalman fan's when I first started to upgrade this machine. Problem is, it wouldn't fit. The board I had was set up slightly differetnlly from the options, and I couln't get it installed.

I have one of those Zalman fan's in my own computer tho, works great!

I'll check the BIOS on her machine and see what the temp is doign in there also.

If it is a sensor problem, is that part of the CPU or the motherboard? Is there any way to check/disable the sensor so that if will ignore the bad readings?

Or do I need to buy yet another part?

[Goldenpaww]

the sensor is usually on the motherboard in the center of the socket, but sometimes can be built into the CPU also. I don't know of any way to disable it.


are you getting errors and warnings from it, or did you just notice it when you ran the program to check it?

[Tinnax]

You didn't mention any other fans on your wife's machine. Only one on the CPU is asking for overheating. I'd say at least one more to draw air out, preferably two, one in front, one in back, one drawing air in, one pushing it out.

[MIKECLAN]

This problem all apears to be part of the "Toasting a Computer" series of questions here on this board. As it is now, I've got a 2 75mm fans pushing/pulling into the case, plus an open Drive slot that open to the outside.

I've also tried leaving the case open and pointing a small fan directly into the open case.

As it is, I don't get Any warnings or error messages saying its getting too hot. it will run all day in Windows mode, but it dumps EQ2 to desktop after about 30 min of playtime.

[Goldenpaww]

dumping in 3D games may be the vid card overheating. Usually when the CPU overheats, the system stuts down/off. Make sure the fan on the vid card is still running, and blow out the heatsink on it.

Possibly try haveing the case open with a box fan blowing into it. If it dumps out with it, touch the heatsink on the CPU and vid card and see if there overly warm.

is it also only EQ that dumps out, or do most games dump out after ~30 min?

[MIKECLAN]

Well, Its a Nvidia 9600, it doesnt have a fan, just a heatsink on it, but I will check that.

The other thing is, I had pretty much the same problem with the old card a ATI 5200 (I think), so I'm not thinking its the video card, but I could be wrong. Either way, its something else to check.

[Tinnax]

Sure you don't mean an Nvidia 5200 and an ATI 9600? The 5200 would have problems running EQ2 btw. The ATI 9600 is a bit better, but not by much.

I would turn the EQ2 graphics -all- the way down, see if it collapses again.

Another thing to check is to see what wattage you have on your powersupply. I know for a fact that when I tried to run EQ (not EQ2) with an nvidia 5600 and two DVD roms attatched with an older 200 watt powersupply, my EQ crashed constantly. Just not enough juice for it when it had two other competing devices to feed.

Btw, the wattage rating on your powersupply is written on the side of the psu, not on the back, unfortunately, so you may have to open up the case again.

[DocBobo]

For a nice monitoring tool I recommend Motherboard Monitor 5 (http://mbm.livewiredev.com). The site is down atm, so here is an alternative download link (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=311). It has an installation wizard that lets you choose your mainboard from a database of several hundred mainboards. Sp your chances of having the sensors of the mobo read correctly are relatively high with this tool.

Most Athlon XPs have an internal thermal diode, though I'm not exactly sure which is the lowest model that actually has one built in. Other than the Pentium 4s, Athlon XPs have to be throttled by the mainboard. That's the big difference in the handling of overheating between P4 and Athlon XP.

So your Radeon 9600 is cooled passively? It could be an overheating problem that causes the drop to the desktop, like it was already mentioned. Does this happen when the case is open as well?

[MIKECLAN]

You're right, I'd switched the video card makers. The compu's Power supply Says its rated at 400w, with one DVD drive installed.

The Problem defintly happens with the case open or closed, and still happens when I have a small fan directed into the interior. I'll try it again tonight after I do the monitoring download and see if I can poin the fan at the video card instead.

[MIKECLAN]

OK, downloaded the Motherboard monitor, but had an error during setup, it appears my wife's motherboard is not one of the supported boards. But I ran it anyway, turned on some alarms. Didn't appear to be registering anything though.

However, I did run EQ2 tonight. For over an hour, without a hitch. Case was open, without a fan pointing into the case.

I did Check the Videocard heatsink, after an hour of play, it was farily warm to the touch, but not unbearably Hot.

For Giggles, I've rerun the CPU-Z, and am posting the contents here. (If this is WAY to much info Doc, feel fre to edit the post, or drop me a note and I'll delete the garbage.)

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CPU-Z version 1.27.2
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CPUID Output
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Number of CPUs 1
Name AMD Athlon XP
Code name Thoroughbred
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+
Family/Model/Stepping 681
Extended Family/Model 7/8
Package Socket A
Core Stepping B0
Technology 0.13µ
Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
Clock Speed 2133.4 MHz
Clock multiplier x16.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 133.3 MHz
Bus Speed 266.7 MHz
P-Rating 2600+
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 256 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 2133.4 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 64 bits

eax ebx ecx edx
Function 00000000 00000001 68747541 444d4163 69746e65
Function 00000001 00000681 00000000 00000000 0383f9ff
Function 80000000 80000008 68747541 444d4163 69746e65
Function 80000001 00000781 00000000 00000000 c1c3f9ff
Function 80000002 20444d41 6c687441 74286e6f 5820296d
Function 80000003 36322050 002b3030 00000000 00000000
Function 80000004 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Function 80000005 0408ff08 ff20ff10 40020140 40020140
Function 80000006 00000000 41004100 01008140 00000000
Function 80000007 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000001
Function 80000008 00002022 00000000 00000000 00000000

edx eax
MSR C0010015 00000000 0A0B1008
MSR C001001B 00000000 6003D22F
MSR C001001E 00000000 0000011E


Chipset
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Northbridge VIA P4M266/KM266 (VT8375) rev. 0
Southbridge VIA VT8235 rev. 0
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Revision 2.0
AGP Transfert Rate 4x
AGP SBA supported, enabled
AGP Aperture 64 MBytes
Memory Type DDR
Memory Size 1024 MBytes
Memory Frequency 133.3 MHz (1:1)
DRAM Interleave 2-way
CAS# 2.5
RAS# to CAS# 3
RAS# Precharge 3
Cycle Time (tRAS) 6


Memory SPD
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DIMM #1

General
Memory type DDR-SDRAM
Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)
Size 512 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2700 (166 MHz)
Part number VS512MB333
Serial number 1403081B
Manufacturing date Week 41/Year 04

Attributes
Number of banks 1
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no

Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 166
CAS# 2.5
RAS# to CAS# delay 3
RAS# Precharge 3
TRAS# 7


DIMM #2

General
Memory type DDR-SDRAM
Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)
Size 512 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2700 (166 MHz)
Part number VS512MB333
Serial number 1A02B12E
Manufacturing date Week 41/Year 04

Attributes
Number of banks 1
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no

Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 166
CAS# 2.5
RAS# to CAS# delay 3
RAS# Precharge 3
TRAS# 7


Monitoring
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Sensor Chip IT 0


PCI Device List
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CPU to PCI Bridge
vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
device ID 0x3116
revision 0x0000
sub vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
sub device ID 0x0000
class code 0x06
sub class code 0x00
bus 0, device 0, function 0

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 06 11 16 31 06 00 30 22 00 00 00 06 00 08 00 00
10 08 00 00 E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 11 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
40 00 18 88 80 82 44 01 20 18 99 88 10 82 44 00 00
50 E0 00 00 02 C0 05 40 40 EE 00 20 20 40 40 40 40
60 0A AA 2A 20 E5 99 42 39 D8 0D 43 D0 40 04 00 00
70 82 C8 00 01 01 01 10 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 0F 65 00 00 C0 00 00 00 03 00 01 00 00 00 00 00
90 17 A3 EB EA 4F 1C 71 19 11 33 00 00 61 11 74 00
A0 02 C0 20 00 07 02 00 1F 04 03 00 00 2F 08 04 00
B0 78 AD 18 9B 80 00 00 00 8A 00 00 00 00 00 20 00
C0 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 42 1A 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 13 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


PCI to PCI Bridge
vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
device ID 0xB091
revision 0x0000
sub vendor ID 0x0000 (unknown)
sub device ID 0x0000
class code 0x06
sub class code 0x04
bus 0, device 1, function 0

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 06 11 91 B0 07 01 30 22 00 00 04 06 00 00 01 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 00 C0 C0 00 00
20 E0 DF E0 DF D0 BF C0 DF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 00
40 81 C0 88 44 24 72 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 01 00 02 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


USB bus controller
vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
device ID 0x3038
revision 0x0080
sub vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
sub device ID 0x3038
class code 0x0C
sub class code 0x03
bus 0, device 10, function 0

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 06 11 38 30 17 00 10 02 80 00 03 0C 08 20 80 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 01 E4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 11 38 30
30 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 01 00 00
40 40 12 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 01 00 C2 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


USB bus controller
vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
device ID 0x3038
revision 0x0080
sub vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
sub device ID 0x3038
class code 0x0C
sub class code 0x03
bus 0, device 10, function 1

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 06 11 38 30 17 00 10 02 80 00 03 0C 08 20 80 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 01 E8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 11 38 30
30 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 02 00 00
40 40 12 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 01 00 C2 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


USB bus controller
vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
device ID 0x3038
revision 0x0080
sub vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
sub device ID 0x3038
class code 0x0C
sub class code 0x03
bus 0, device 10, function 2

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 06 11 38 30 17 00 10 02 80 00 03 0C 08 20 80 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 01 EC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 11 38 30
30 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 03 00 00
40 40 12 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 01 00 C2 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


USB bus controller
vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
device ID 0x3104
revision 0x0082
sub vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
sub device ID 0x3104
class code 0x0C
sub class code 0x03
bus 0, device 10, function 3

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 06 11 04 31 17 00 10 02 82 20 03 0C 08 20 00 00
10 00 FF FF DF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 11 04 31
30 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 04 00 00
40 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 80 10 00 09 00 00 00 00
50 00 5A 00 80 00 00 00 00 04 0B 22 22 33 22 00 00
60 20 20 01 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 01 00 C2 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


PCI to ISA Bridge
vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
device ID 0x3177
revision 0x0000
sub vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
sub device ID 0x0000
class code 0x06
sub class code 0x01
bus 0, device 11, function 0

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 06 11 77 31 87 00 10 02 00 00 01 06 00 00 80 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 11 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
40 44 00 F8 0B 00 00 00 00 0C 20 00 00 44 00 08 08
50 81 1D 09 00 00 B0 C5 A0 03 80 FF 01 00 00 04 08
60 00 00 00 00 10 00 02 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 06 11 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00
80 20 84 59 00 9A 00 00 00 01 08 00 00 04 18 00 00
90 00 00 60 00 B0 C5 00 00 10 2F 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 01 04 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 3C 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


IDE Disk controller
vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
device ID 0x0571
revision 0x0006
sub vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
sub device ID 0x0571
class code 0x01
sub class code 0x01
bus 0, device 11, function 1

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 06 11 71 05 07 00 90 02 06 8A 01 01 00 20 00 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 01 FC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 11 71 05
30 00 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 01 00 00
40 0B F2 09 05 18 1C C0 00 11 20 20 20 FF 00 B6 B6
50 07 E6 F2 F0 0C 00 00 00 A8 A8 A8 A8 00 00 00 00
60 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 02 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 F8 2E 78 06 00 00 00 00 C8 E9 7C 06 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 06 00 71 05 06 11 71 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


Audio controller
vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
device ID 0x3059
revision 0x0050
sub vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
sub device ID 0x4161
class code 0x04
sub class code 0x01
bus 0, device 11, function 5

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 06 11 59 30 01 00 10 02 50 00 01 04 00 00 00 00
10 01 E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 11 61 41
30 00 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 03 00 00
40 01 CC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 01 00 02 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 01 00 02 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


Ethernet network controller
vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
device ID 0x3065
revision 0x0074
sub vendor ID 0x1106 (VIA)
sub device ID 0x0102
class code 0x02
sub class code 0x00
bus 0, device 12, function 0

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 06 11 65 30 17 00 10 02 74 00 00 02 08 20 00 00
10 01 DC 00 00 00 FE FF DF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 11 02 01
30 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 01 03 08
40 01 00 02 FE 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 80 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


VGA display controller
vendor ID 0x1002 (ATI)
device ID 0x4150
revision 0x0000
sub vendor ID 0x1002 (ATI)
sub device ID 0x4722
class code 0x03
sub class code 0x00
bus 1, device 0, function 0

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 02 10 50 41 07 00 B0 02 00 00 00 03 08 FF 80 00
10 08 00 00 D0 01 C8 00 00 00 00 EF DF 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 10 22 47
30 00 00 EC DF 58 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 01 08 00
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 10 22 47
50 01 00 02 06 00 00 00 00 02 50 20 00 17 02 00 4F
60 04 03 00 1F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


Display controller
vendor ID 0x1002 (ATI)
device ID 0x4170
revision 0x0000
sub vendor ID 0x1002 (ATI)
sub device ID 0x4723
class code 0x03
sub class code 0x80
bus 1, device 0, function 1

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 02 10 70 41 07 00 B0 02 00 00 80 03 08 20 00 00
10 08 00 00 C8 00 00 EE DF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 10 23 47
30 00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 00 08 00
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 01 00 02 06 00 00 00 00 02 50 20 00 17 02 00 4F
60 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


DMI
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DMI BIOS
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BIOS #1
vendor American Megatrends Inc.
version 07.00T
date 04/02/01


DMI System Information
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System #1
manufacturer MATSONIC
product MS8157E
version 1.0
serial 00000000
UUID 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000


DMI Baseboard
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Baseboard #1
vendor MATSONIC
model MS8157E
revision 1.0
serial 00000000


DMI System Enclosure
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System enclosure #1
manufacturer MATSONIC
chassis type Desktop
chassis serial 00000000


DMI Processor
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CPU #1
manufacturer AMD
model AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+
clock speed 2133.0MHz
FSB speed 133.0MHz
multiplier 16.0x


DMI Memory Controller
---------------------
Memory Controller #1
correction 32-bit ECC
Max module size 1024MBytes


DMI Memory Module
-----------------
Memory Module #1
designation DIMM1
size 512MBytes (single bank)
Memory Module #2
designation DIMM2
size 512MBytes (single bank)
Memory Module #3
designation DIMM3
Memory Module #4
designation DIMM4


DMI Port Connector
------------------
Port #1
designation USB (internal)
designation Def (external)
port type SSA SCSI
connector Mini Centronics
connector DB-25 male


DMI Extension Slot
------------------
Slot #1
designation PCI1
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated no
Slot #2
designation PCI2
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated no
Slot #3
designation PCI3
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated no
Slot #4
designation PCI4
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated no
Slot #5
designation PCI5
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated no
Slot #6
designation ISA1
type ISA
width 16 bits
Slot #7
designation ISA2
type ISA
width 16 bits


Software
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Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX Version 9.0c

[Wolf]

Checked the heat of mine the other day with something built into windows, I can't remember what it was exactly, but it was 150F which is probably really bad, and it has its own fan.

[Goldenpaww]

150f is only 65.5c, so well within range. mine was shutting down at 85c, or 185f

[DocBobo]

When the graphic card is only lukewarm, then I highly doubt it's the cause of the crashes. Let's test the CPU again. Download Prime 95 (http://mersenne.org/gimps/p95v238.exe) and start the torture test of the program. What it does is calculate prime numbers and compare results with precalculated ones. If results differ, then your CPU has a problem, most likely overheating.

Just install, click OK on all questions, then start the memory and CPU intensive torture test. If it runs without errors for a few hours (maybe 3 or 4), then the CPU is not the problem. Overheating problems turn up in the first 15 minutes when I run this test. A longer run is just making absolutely sure.

About MBM5, you can configure it manually, but you have to fiddle with the sensor settings to get the correct readings. I can't help you much with that, sorry. The program will propably show 4 or 5 sensors, but only 2 of them actually make sense, one is the northbridge temperature (system in BIOS), the other is the CPU temperature. The others just show senseless numbers or none at all. System should read between 20 and 30°C (68-86°F), CPU between 30 and 60°C (86-140°F). If it's more than that, your system definetly needs more cooling.

[Chewbenator]

Nvidia 5200 can run EQ on medium settings with megalag for at least 2 hours. On low settings, at least 6 hours. I had one in my old Dell. Yet, mine was overclocked, so you might get more time out of yours even, but it really should not crash after 30 minutes.

[sivart]

I know this is an old thread, but it still applies. I downloaded and installed MBM 5 per docbobo, and it reports CPU temp at -32 C ??? can anyone tell me how to set it up correctly. thanks.

[DocBobo]

To quote myself:
About MBM5, you can configure it manually, but you have to fiddle with the sensor settings to get the correct readings. I can't help you much with that, sorry. The program will propably show 4 or 5 sensors, but only 2 of them actually make sense, one is the northbridge temperature (system in BIOS), the other is the CPU temperature. The others just show senseless numbers or none at all. System should read between 20 and 30°C (68-86°F), CPU between 30 and 60°C (86-140°F). If it's more than that, your system definetly needs more cooling.
Unfortunately MBM is discontinued.

A new tool I learned to love recently is speedfan (http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php). It's even less intuitive than MBM, but with a little trial and error you can get the tool to show the right temperatures.