X-Men: The Last Stand

[togashi]

New trailer up at www.x3movie.com

Looks really good. Cyclops seems to lose it, Magneto's got an army, it appears that Leech from the Morlocks is the source of the mutant "cure". Kelsey Grammer as Beast...wow, that'll be interesting to watch. A lot more Colossus this time...fastball special, anyone? Can't wait for it. Too bad they're saying this is the last one.

[wiccalight]

yep I wouldnt be surprised, all the actors signed a three movie contract.

[Tristate0999]

It's a shame too. The X-Men Universe has so many characters it's a shame that they don't intend to do any more. I'd be happy with them bringing back the X-Men cartoon though...but not redone like all the other shows have been. I don't want to see them like what happened to GI Joe...stinking Anime...

[Wolf]

I think I saw Juggernaut on a commercial today, if so I'm totally excited about this movie and it will probably be the first movie I see in theatres for months.

EDIT: ARCHANGEL!! Ah I'm already sleeping outside the movie theatre now!

[Thereden]

I'll be going to see this, as I'm an avid X-Men fan.

But I can't help feeling that they're going with the "This is the last movie, let's chuck as many characters and plots from the comics in there that we can. Who cares that it doesn't follow the comics properly?" idea.

Still, maybe that's just me being a huge fan feeling slightly disgruntled at the mangling they're doing :)

I have a couple of "wha?"'s about the cast list.
Kelsey Grammar as Beast?
Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut?

Ok, admittedly I've not seen the new trailer yet, but the idea of it.....


I'll still go see it anyway, lol.


And yes, I can't wait to see if they do the "Fastball Special" :)

[Insomniac]

Oh, yeah! I can't wait! BEAST!!! He's my favorite! I really hope it's not the last one. :( They've got a really good ensemble right now.

[togashi]

I have a couple of "wha?"'s about the cast list.
Kelsey Grammar as Beast?
Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut?

The idea behind the casting of these two guys is that from the looks of it, a lot of the fighting will be CGI, so they have to come up with people in the cast that more closely match the characters. With that in mind, the extremely cerebral feel of Kelsey Grammar matches up really well with Beast, and the really tough feel that Vinnie Jones brings matches up really well with Juggernaut. Makeup and CGI can do the rest. I for one would like to see my actors put on a good performance as close to the characters they play as possible. On another note, I like the idea of keeping the virtual unknowns in the movie. The kid that plays Iceman was perfect in the first two, and the guy who played Colossus in the second one made me wish Wolverine would have taken his help.

[Kallysti]

I saw the long preview for this when I went to see V For Vendetta, it was all I could do to not walk up to the screen shaking my tiny fists and demanding the whole thing :p

Already gettin the shakes thinking about it, lol.

[Thereden]

I agree with the idea of Kelsey's brains and Vinnie's tough man look. In that way it's good casting. I was going with the build etc of the actors.

With good CGI it could come over very well, but there is always the chance that the CGI will turn out....well.....not so good, lol.

Not had a chance to look at the trailer yet as I'm still at work - do you get to see Juggers and Beast at all in it?

[togashi]

Yeah, there's a part of the trailer where Juggy is chasing Kitty Pryde through walls, and there's several shots of Beast.

On a side note, Fox says it's better than the first two. Of course, they're biased for their own movie, so take it as you want.

[Whytewulf]

I am stoked.. This may be the last one with the stars, but they should continue and could make money.. isn't that key? They dont need Halle or Hugh.. Xavier may be tough to lose.. if they did a 4 he could bei n it for 5 to 10 min for continuity.

[Tristate0999]

Ooo I have some TV trailers, not sure if anyone has seen them yet...

Number 1 (http://latinoreview.com/films_2006/fox/x-men3/video/xmentv1.mov)

Number 2 (http://latinoreview.com/films_2006/fox/x-men3/video/xmentv2.mov)

Number 3 (http://latinoreview.com/films_2006/fox/x-men3/video/xmen3tv3.mov)

[asquithfeare]

Must.......see......X-Men......movie.......can't.......wait.......any... ......longer

[Kikaro]

Ok I saw this last night at the midnight showing...

I just was not impressed. I loved the jean storyline, but there was not enough of it.

And Storm... every line of dialogue she had just felt like the writers were grasping for ways to include her.

I think the Beast was well done though. He fit the part perfectly. Wish he could have done more though.

Cyclops.... I wont even go there.

Wolverine... Why do the movies need to revolve aroudn him? I just dont get it.

Overall the effects were pretty good. I will warn you, stay until the credits are over. Small hint at something important.

I dont think the overall movie was horrible, I just was very disapointed at some of the changes they put in. Some of the mutants did not get nearly enough screen time.

And why did all the evil mutants need piercings and tatoos and wear all black? Seemed a little odd to me.

Oh well, I will be seeing it again monday i think with another friend, maybe i will come back with a little more love of the movie.

[Keaolien]

Well I just got back from seeing it, and I loved it. Great action, great CG, and the storyline was decent.

As to the piercnigs and all black part Kikaro, those ones were actually the Morlocks, from the original comic, they just didn't call them that in this one. They lived in the sewers and such, and thus the black helped them fade in. The piercings part, I'm confused on that one too.

All in all, it was a good action flick....and there was a preview for Ghost Rider at the start....which also looks ever so damn good.

[Kikaro]

See, I had no idea they were Morlocks... I guess it makes more sense now.

LIke I said I will see it again. I really want to like it but I was too busy getting pissed off with the whole Storm crap they added. Maybe if I go in not tryign ot hate Storm (LOL) I can have a better appreaciation for it.

We shall see.

Still hate the cyclops stuff..

[Keaolien]

LOL, Cyclops is a whiney little schoolgirl....gah, hate that character so much, always have hehe

[Jacene]

Well I think the reasons for the piercings and tattoos were to give a sign of rebellion and non-conformity. They didn't fit in with humans, nor other mutants, so they rebelled and wanted to show it. I liked the movie as well, and I agree about Cyclops...I can't stand his character.

[Mordican]

Well I am highly disappointed in this movie. The first two were storyline driven and had real world conflicts to deal with. The mutant factor was there, but it was to assist the story IMO. In X3 its all about the mutants and their powers.

I read a line by Singer (director for the first two) as to why the Beast wasn't in the first 2 movies. He said it was because 3 blue mutants would have been hard to pull off. (Mystique and Night Crawler) The new director and producers showed no such restraint this time around. I was very disappointed Nightcrawler wasn't in this one. He gave X2 a conscience and helped to off set Storm's more dominant personality. Berry does not do Storm any justice in this movie. She was the worst of the main characters IMO. Its worth seeing for the action, and it does have its moments, but a lot of the dialoge amd plot seems forced and highly predictable.

2 out of 5 stars at best...

[One-Winged Angel]

Loved the movie. I do agree that Storm sucked big time. Halle Berry and her incessant whining about not having enough screen time apparently got her too much...and not deserved at all. Oh, and Juggernaut looked ridiculous...and was wrongly affected by a mutant power drain...he's not a mutant! Oh well...good movie overall.

[Jacene]

Yea thats also one thing that bothered me...Juggernaut isn't really a mutant.

[Breandan]

err... for the guy who doesn't read comic books other than the old 1970's and early 80's Conans, what is he if not a mutant?

[Kikaro]

I dont 100% remember his story but Juggernaut is not a mutant. His suit or something is what allowed him to be so strong. So he would not have lost his strength when he got near Leech (the kid who drained powers)

He is also Professor Xavier's brother if I am not mistaken...

[drunkengamer]

loved this movie loved the ending....so how many of you stuck around for the ending AFTER the credits

[Kikaro]

Yeah its kind of important honestly even though its liek 10 seconds.

[Nulien]

I would've stuck around until the end of the credits, except I'd drank a large coke, and I really had to pee at that point.

I enjoyed this movie, and I'll probably go and see it again while it's still in theaters (even if it's only because I still have a free movie pass I haven't used).

[DeoFayte]

Umm... might just be my bad memory... mutant or not, wasn't his armor used origionally in the comics to "contain" his power.

[One-Winged Angel]

Juggernaut found some sort of magical gem, the ruby of something-or-other, that made him super strong. I don't know about his suit...but they definitely should have used it, instead of just giving him that ridiculous helmet by itself. And yes, I believe he was Prof. X's brother. I learned all this from playing X-Men Legends II...lol.

[Keaolien]

Juggernaut actually discovered the Gem of Cytorrak, a blood ruby. Basically, there was an oath he swore with it, and it's power turned him into "A nigh unstoppable juggernaut. A force of nature" as I recall. He is not a mutant, but rather the personification of an elemental force of nature.

[One-Winged Angel]

Ah that's the name...couldn't remember it. One thing I loved...when Kitty Pryde stuck him in the floor, he just looked up and said "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!!" and broke out...I laughed so hard at that. Freakin' attitude.

[Erling E.]

I went to see it because I wanted to see an effects movie. And that is exactly what I got. As an effects film it was superb. Fantastic. Astonoshing. Loved every minute of it. The popcorn even tasted better than before.

[Tristate0999]

Me and wife are going to see be seeing this today. I've heard something sad about the movie...and I'll confirm it when I get home today...man I really hope it isn't true :(

[Nulien]

I like what they did with the opening scene of the movie. They used digital technology to make Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan look like they did 20 years ago. (link (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/5/24/apworld/20060524193008&sec=apworld))

[Tristate0999]

Just got back from seeing this movie not too long ago, and I have to say one of the best visual movies I've seen this year. The story felt a bit rushed to me though, but can't really help it since the director said this was to be the last X-men film...yeah right. But I was very disappointed in the fact that...

The Professor and Cyclops died *sad face* It wasn't like it was at the end either...it was bascially in the first quarter of the movie.


Another thing that bugged me where The Phoenix's "graphics". From what I remember she's supposed to be cloaked in flame when she's going all out...not looking like some kind of zombie chick. Over all I give it a 9/10

Got a quick question to all those who know the X-men fairly well:

Was Juggernaugt Xaviers brother? I could have sworn he was on the animated series...or was that Sabertooth? Been too long.

[One-Winged Angel]

As to your censored statement...you did stay after the credits right? There's a scene that would have made you happy. :)

[Keaolien]

Juggernaut Aka Marko Cain was Xavier's half brother

[Ambrya]

Went to see this last night. I didn't think there was enough Cyclops or Storm for them to merit the amount of irritation I've seen here. Was v. shocked at the outcome of Xavier's showdown with Phoenix. Definitely seemed to be a "closure" short of movie and should have remained that way. It seemed like the stuff that was left open-ended was done because some studio exec somewhere decided it would be better to leave room for another installment.

All in all, I liked it a lot. Would have been better if I hadn't been in the opening stages of what has become a rampaging eye infection at the time, though.

[Keaolien]

It's not that there was a lot of cyclops in THIS movie, just in general in all the comics and movies and games and cartoons etc etc, he is a whiney little schoolgirl lol.

[Tobash]

Hey all,

I went to see it too today. However I never made it through the credits, so didnt see what you all are talking about. I saw the end with Magneto playing chess, but thats it. Can someone reply with a spoiler about after the credits.

Much appreciated!

Tobash

[DeoFayte]

spoiler

highlight to view you've been warned

Remember the clip early in the movie about the man without any higher brain functions? How it was possible to place one there ;) the short clip is of Charles voice saying hello in that room, you get the idea :)

I just got back from watching it myself, well done. I agree with a few others that the story seemed a little rushed. However I find the case tends to have to be cause there's so much important stuff to include.

Also, similarly disapointed with how they did pheonix... with all the other awesome effects in this movie, they really could (should) have done the whole fiery aura. Looking like a zombie sux lol. It might be the directors attempt to symbolize that the power is corrupting her (I hope) but personally I would have been happier with simple flaming eyes over the zombie look... Even happier if it had been done along the comics, Fiery aura's pwn :)

[BolarGimack]

The movie in and of itself was good. The director and writers you could tell never read a single Marvel comic in their lives. I don't know how they got any of these stories approved.

I left there saying to my friend WTF are they gonna do now. They killed off roughly 100 mutants in the film. (That doesn't happen untill AFTER Apocolypse appears.) Now the story is so fragmented and fubared that it will take a godly director to make any of the future Marvel movies come together.

Ghost Rider looks to be somewhat promising. We shall see though. They are from the looks of it focusing on the 2nd Ghost Rider with the first "pale rider" being his mentor. They even show the old cowboy in the previews. I only hope that they follow the story line and don't proceed to the 3rd and current incarnation of Ghost Rider. How they are going to do a GR movie with half the Marvel Universe dead is beyond me. Heck the FF sequel is gonna be a stretch.

I view these movies as all within the same series. Since it is the Marvel universe. When they do these they so need to work with the Comic's writers so they get this stuff right. If we were to tally the deaths in the Marvel universe over the last few years it would be insane.

[DeoFayte]

Actually, the director has stated openly that this is the "last" x-man movie... asside from off shoots like logan's story. This movie is his hope (for what reason I can't fathom) to end the series. i.e. no x-man 4

[Tristate0999]

Ah yes...I missed that ending credits thing. There's no way they're going to be letting this series die out then. I'll believe that 20th Century will bring on another director if Ratner doesn't wish to do another film. I just can't see it ending like that...then again...there's only so long some of these actors might commit to these parts.

Thanks Keaolien, thought they were brothers in some way.

[Elenial]

Ah that's the name...couldn't remember it. One thing I loved...when Kitty Pryde stuck him in the floor, he just looked up and said "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!!" and broke out...I laughed so hard at that. Freakin' attitude.
I went to see this with some friends loved the movie and thought one of them was going to wet himself during that part. Not many people stayed to see the sceene after the end credits.

[Grizzlebeard]

I was so completely dissappointed in this movie. Seriously, is Hollywood incapable of making a film that isn't dominated by offset politics and actually just tell a story? It just struck me that Halle Berry's agent must have come up with some, "minimum 70% screen presence or my oscar-winning actress won't appear" deal. The X-men were essentially reduced to Storm and Wolverine, who they couldn't remove for fear of losing the huge, "Wolverine pwns" following, and the rest were just cameo roles or entertaining shots of them using their powers for a brief instant such as the fastball, which wasn't, Angel flying, and doing little else, and Iceman becoming "himself" for the first time. Again, blink and you'd have missed these.

I'm not even going to go into the Cyclops thing...

[Zutan]

ive seen reports on some sites that there will be a xmen 4, and a bundle others. i cant find the link mind you i just looked.

[Whytewulf]

enjoyed the movie.. should have been 10 minutes longer.

Iceman finally becoming ICEMAN was cool.. and I bet will get an offshoot movie or with others.

Not enough of our favorite tin man..

Was sad some chars from the first 2 didn't show up again.

In the next one (there will be a 4 I am certain), can it not be x-men vs. magneto?

I think the leech thing will be temporary and if Juggernaut maybe just lost his power, any power, maybe not just mutant power. And I thought a lot had to do with his helm.

They did kill off a whole lot of no name mutants, lava breath guy and such.. but my question, is there really supposed to be a HUGE mutant population, like the lines of "normal" looking mutants trying for the cure.

and Rebecca is still hot.

[Aren31]

ive seen reports on some sites that there will be a xmen 4, and a bundle others. i cant find the link mind you i just looked.

What I know is that there will be a Wolverine movie and a Magneto movie.

Also, Fox Studios stated somewhere that there could very well be a 4th and more X-Men movies, but that this current story line is concluded.

A 4th movie would go in another direction.

But Wolverine should be fun, and the Magneto movie goes back to tell his pre-story

[Dravvan]

Spoilers within (can't figger out how to put in the spoiler thingy):

Having recently seen X3, I was surprised at some of things that happen that make me question whether there will be a #4. I saw a bit before the credits rolled that did make me wonder, though. Hmm...like another poster, I had to use the men's room so I missed what happened after the credits rolled.

1) I wish they'd brought back Nightcrawler. I liked his character. The budding romance between him and Storm was quite touching. However, I'm glad they brought in Kitty Pryde.

2) Several deaths, including a couple that surprised me, of mutants.

3) I liked what they did with Juggernaut. Had a great attitude.

4) And I loved Kelsey Grammer's portrayal of The Beast, right down to "Oh my Stars and Garters!" quote.

Overall, it's not a bad flick, but I felt it could have been of the same caliber as the first, IMHO. I'll buy the DVD when it comes out to complete my collection.

[junior]

is there really supposed to be a HUGE mutant population, like the lines of "normal" looking mutants trying for the cure.


Yes and no.

Up until recently, there were enough mutants to have an entire enclave of a major metropolitan US city be mutant majority (much as happens with suburbs in big US cities that are largely one racial minority or another). The X-Man Bishop worked as a cop in a new comic book called District X that had him working with a human partner (who was married to a mutant). However, round about issue #5, Marvel's 'House of M' event occurred, and due to various factors roughly 90% of the world's mutants suddenly become normal humans.

I believe that took place last summer.

And District X died at that time since there suddenly weren't enough mutants to maintain a city district like that (it might have also had less than satisfactory sales).

There were also, up until a few years ago, roughly 16 million (I think) mutants living on the island of Genosha. But an attack by rogue, extremely powerful sentinels wiped out over 99% of the population.

and Rebecca is still hot.


Hopefully if there is a sequel, and depowered mutants start getting their powers back, she'll switch sides and smear Magneto across the floor. :P

[Kaylen]

is there really supposed to be a HUGE mutant population, like the lines of "normal" looking mutants trying for the cure.

For a solely movie-verse answer: in the previous two movies, any scene with Cerebro shows you that there are a lot of mutants.

[asquithfeare]

*CRY* Oh, the special effects were awesome, but can I just say..........It sucked.

I was hoping they would redeem themselves and start following the comic books more....Oh well.....

did get me wondering if they would make an x-men 4 though.

[Tathaur]

I went to this movie expecting a special effects fest with shitty acting, bad script, and bad directing.
I got more than I expected, as just about everyone except Storm's acting was admirable.

[Dravvan]

...as just about everyone except Storm's acting was admirable.

Heh...I missed the accent she had in #1.

[DeoFayte]

I think they screwed up storm in this one also, not just the acting... Storm isn't supposed to be that emotional, yet she was almost all emotion in this film.

[Alakandrius]

From what I recall, the significance of Juggernaught's helm is that it's like Magneto's helmet... it blocks Xavier's psychic abilities.

[Thereden]

Storm emotional? That's a no-no.
Her powers can go out of control if she gets emotional, which is why in the comics she's portayed as being all calm and collected.

As for Jugg's armor, that was bestowed upon him by the gem of Cytorrak, which also gave him his powers. And yes, the helm blocks telepathic attacks, as whenever Prof X has tried to use his mental powers to stop him, he has had to get the helmet removed somehow.

[Darasen]

I thought the movie was pretty good.
You just have to accept the movie universe is not the same as the comics 616 or "Ultimate"
My question: They lifted the Phoenix story (obviously) but they also lifted the the cure bit from Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men. Why not have Whedon write and direct X-Men ?

[Aren31]

I thought the movie was pretty good.
You just have to accept the movie universe is not the same as the comics 616 or "Ultimate"
My question: They lifted the Phoenix story (obviously) but they also lifted the the cure bit from Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men. Why not have Whedon write and direct X-Men ?

I don't know about X-Men, but Joss Whedon is making the Wonder Woman movie

[Kikaro]

OK, so I saw this again...

(Rather late due to lots of stressful family isues but still...)

And I have to say, not focusing on how much I hate Storm, I thought it was better than I originally declared.

It still lacked some things, but i had a better experience.

Though, watching X2 last night, i realized I was more excited when they were breaking into the school than anything in X3.

[Jandau]

I remember reading that the next X-Man movie is gonna be a Wolverine spinoff...

[Kikaro]

Yeah, there is work on a Wolverine, and a seperate Magneto movie. Could be... Interesting.

Though, Patrick Stewart has agreed to be in the Magneto movie.

[Calaglin]

Just watched it a couple of days ago, and I wish I hadn't. It was not a bad movie as such, but killing off prof X and putting Magneto to a home without a chess adversary just didn't feel right. Now, I read the comics ages ago, it seems, and I don't know if those two are out of the equation in comics as well. But if not, killing off key people just to put an ending to the movies didn't seem right to me. The original setup was perfect; two old friends who end up fighting on the opposing sides for the same cause but still have deep respect for each other was perfect. And then you kill one off and turn the other one into just another old man, what's with that? And if they're out of the comics as well, these days, I'm happy I left that hobby when I did.

I'll still be looking forward to the Wolverine movie, though. Wolvie's always been a favourite of mine, and HJ is the perfect choice to portray him.

[Keaolien]

Well Calaglin, just to clear up the killing off Prof X thing and stuff......he, Cyclops, and Magneto, among MANY others, have died so many times in the comics, it is something of a joke these days. lol

Also, I'm going to assume you didn't stay until after the credits? If so, there was a teaser scene there ;) I suggest maybe finding it online or somesuch :) It's worth it.

[Aren31]

Yeah, there is work on a Wolverine, and a seperate Magneto movie. Could be... Interesting.

Though, Patrick Stewart has agreed to be in the Magneto movie.

The Magneto movie is set back in time 30 or 40 years to when he and Xavier met, and were young men. They are using CGI techniques to make them both look 30 years younger

[Kikaro]

im wondering if that shouldnt be marked as a spoiler LOL. Of course, im sure everyone knows by now...

[Tristate0999]

It's nothing that's going to ruin the movie experience, so I say no spoiler is needed.

[Raxtull]

Death in comics is rarely permanent. After one writer kills them off to further their storyline, another writer will take over later to resurrect them. If a character stays dead for a long time, then either it was a crappy character (and it has to be really crappy to not be good enough for comics, there are tons of worthless characters out there), no other writer has needed it to fill a storyline, or a suitably similar clone has since been created in order to fill some diversity niche.

[Calaglin]

Well Calaglin, just to clear up the killing off Prof X thing and stuff......he, Cyclops, and Magneto, among MANY others, have died so many times in the comics, it is something of a joke these days. lol

Also, I'm going to assume you didn't stay until after the credits? If so, there was a teaser scene there ;) I suggest maybe finding it online or somesuch :) It's worth it.

Ah, I see. Well, I'm glad that I laid off the comics when I did, in that case. And no, I didn't go see it in a cinema (it cut off at the beginning of the credits), the version I watched was at my buddy's place and *cough* somewhat illegal. I'll buy the DVD once it hits the market, both because as I have the other two, and to relieve my guilt.