Transformers the Movie

[Cobble]

I know the movie is a long way off but I know that others would be lovin this as much as I am so I wanted to share.

http://www.blackfilm.com/20060512/features/transformertest_video.shtml

[Tristate0999]

IMDB Movie Info (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418279/) Movie looks like it could be interesting, but I'm not sure about their choices in actors. Bernie Mac and Tyrese? Whatever...we'll see in about 10 months if it's actually decent.

[togashi]

You sure that's a movie? Looks kinda like a project of some kind. Anyway, I like the 80s one better.

You got the touch.
You got the POWAAAAAAAAAAH!

[asquithfeare]

I agree with Togashi.

Where the hell is Optimus Prime....biatch???!!!!!

[Zarithar]

Someone wake me up when they decide to do a Thundercats or Masters of the Universe movie (yes... I know about the one with Dolph Lundgren).

Those were two of my favorite 80s toons.

[Tristate0999]

Oooo...Silverhawks...anyone remember them? (http://cartoons.vpga.com/silverhawks/)

[Dilorenzo]

Masters of the Universe movie (yes... I know about the one with Dolph Lundgren)

I tend to ignore that one. As well as The Punisher.

However, I'm actually looking forward to this. Even if it's bad, it'll retain the spirit of the cartoon (let's be honest - those 30 minute toy ads were never actually that great), and if it's actually good, then, well, that's cool too.

Edit to add: Once my internet stopped farting about, and I got that to play- it's not from the film. That's some guys school project, I think. Heard about it last month, or the month before that.

[Keaolien]

actually, not to ruin anyone's hopes....but that trailer with "optimus prime" is actually a card ad....I've seen it run many times up here in Canada, cant recall the station though.....but the movie it's self is real, that "trailer" however, is a commercial lol

[Cobble]

nice, guess I got duped. I got it from digg. oh well. I am still looking forward to the movie however. I loved transformers. Even if it turns out as garbage.

[asquithfeare]

I still want to see Optimus Prime!!!!!

Ooh and a silverhawk movie would be righteous as well.

*Schnarf*

[Tristate0999]

Well production is still going on the Transformer movie, and many of leaks that have come out (i.e. Bumblebee transforming from a Camero rather than a VW Bug) may be unfounded. Michael Bay, the director, has stated that there is a NDA between himself, the COO...maybe the CEO of Hasbro, and the Hasbro lawyer. Source (http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=535) And to the Devastator rumor, I have no idea what he's talking about there so couldn't help ya. Though the movie is going to feature some of the newer army/air force technology.

And if you didn't know yet, this will be a Generation 1 movie. So the newer Autobots/Transformers that occured after the whole Unicron thing won't be in there. If my understanding is correct. Hopefully this movie is done right, especially since many of the people watching the newer Transformers probably have no idea about the G1 Transformers.

I'm also wondering how many G1 Transformers he's going to be putting into the movie...there was...oh so many. I'd say he's going with Prime, Megatron, Starscream, Bluestreak or Blurr, Hotrod, Silverbolt, can't remember the Boombox guys...gotta go with them,...ok well I guess if I had my way they all would be in there...

[togashi]

Blurr and Hotrod weren't G1. They were introduced in the movie.
When you say G1, I think Megatron, Prime, the three jets (Starscream, Thundercracker, and I can't remember the third), Ironhide, Jazz, Prowl, Soundwave and his tapes, the Dinobots.

[B_Delacroix]

The only bit of interest I have in this movie is it is being filmed right near where I work. I still will likely not bother to go see it.

[junior]

Bumblebee is a Camero. Aint It Cool News had photos. Some of the people posting in the attached thread suggested the reason why - Apparently Volkswagon has developed a hang-up with the idea of its products being associated with 'War'. So no more Volkswagon based Transformers.

Also, Megatron can't be a gun because Hasbro has to be able to sell a toy version of him, and toy gun sales are severely restricted in the US right now in order to avoid accidental shootings by police (i.e. someone jumps out brandishing what looks like a gun, and it's not learned until after they're dead that it was really a realistic looking toy). According to AICN, Megatron will be a jet in the movie.

Fortunately, Optimus Prime is still supposed to be a big red big rig truck. And the story is that the creators have managed to secure at least some of the original voices - including Peter "Voice of God" Cullen.

^_^

[Furrykitty]

Blurr and Hotrod weren't G1. They were introduced in the movie.
When you say G1, I think Megatron, Prime, the three jets (Starscream, Thundercracker, and I can't remember the third), Ironhide, Jazz, Prowl, Soundwave and his tapes, the Dinobots.
Ramjet (http://www.tfu.info/1985/Decepticon/Ramjet/ramjet.htm)

Trailbreaker (http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Trailbreaker/trailbreaker.htm) was my favorite toy. Hope he gets a cameo shot(yeah, right). :) Be cool to see them give Jetfire (http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Jetfire/jetfire.htm) a part too. Still one of the more popular G1 toys. VERY hard to get hold of.

Edit - found some links. :)

[junior]

Actually, Skywarp was the jet. Ramjet was from the second trio of Decepticon jets that was added a little later (still G1, though).

:P

[togashi]

You know, Jetfire looked nothing like his cartoon counterpart, and suspiciously like the Robotech planes. I don't remember if Hasbro made both of them.

[junior]

The Jetfire toy is indeed a VF1-S Super Valkyrie (aka Booby Duck) from Macross (incorporated into Robotech as the first segment) relabeled as a Transformer. I've heard that the reason the onscreen version and the toy dont look alike is because of licensing issues.

Harmony Gold has the US rights to Macross, though the understanding of what those rights allow appears to have changed somewhat over the years.

[Tristate0999]

Megatron is going to be his Gen 2 tank version. And I forgot when those 2 were introduced...but I liked them none-the-less. They mine as well not call Bumblebee Bumblebee anymore either...give him a different name, which hopefully they do.

[uup2it]

Dare we pray for the Dinobots to be in the movie?? If its first gen only that prolly means no dinobots or constructicons but thats ok. Long as starscream is still the backstabing robot we all know and love.

[togashi]

Aw, no Megatron gun that Soundwave was the only one to shoot? The times, they are a-changin.

[junior]

Dinobots and Constructicons are still considered G1. G1 covers pretty much everything that appeared on TV in the Earth episodes before the movie advanced the timeline roughly 20 years and moved the action to space and alien worlds.

However, at AITC, I saw a picture of a tank that was labeled as Devastator. So the Constructicons might not make it into the movie in their original form.

On the other hand, I've also read a rumor that some of the vehicles (no robots in photos yet) have been intentionally mislabeled in order to keep people in the dark until the time is right.

[Tristate0999]

A new Teaser Poster (http://www.fantasymundo.com/imagenes/noticias/2149.jpg) has been released for the movie. If you can't make out what it says
"Their War, Our World" And July 4, 2007 is really far off :(

Edit: Soundwave may or may not be a Hummer now.

[TVs Frank]

http://www.transformersmovie.com/

According to their ticker it's 11 days, but the date on the bottom is 2007.

11 days until they reveal more?

[Tristate0999]

I'd say that was definately an opps

[TVs Frank]

I'd say that was definately an opps
*Shrug* We'll see on July 4th, heh.

And a year is a looong time to wait for Transformers goodness.

[Tristate0999]

So...I guess this (http://www.aintitcool.com/images2006/bumble.jpg) is supposed to be Bumblebee. It's a big file, and you really can't see much...but it's a full scale model I think.

[Tristate0999]

Optimus? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:RealOptimusTruck.jpg) This is supposedly the new Optimus Prime vehicle form...hmm...

[Unicron]

How can there be a Transformers movie without Unicron?

That´s right! No way!

[Tristate0999]

Alrighty so they have confirmed which robots will be appearing in the movie and they are:

For the Autobots, Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Jazz, Ratchet and Ironhide.



For the Decepticons, Megatron, Starscream, Brawl, Bonecrusher, Barricade, Skorpinok, Frenzy, and Blackout.

[Clareon Wolfeyes]

Minor changes are ok to me right now, like changing Bumblebee into a Camaro is not to big a problem, I hope they don't sacrifice story and performance for an effects heavy monstrosity.

[Tristate0999]

And some other news roaming the TF Movie forums. Some "leaked" images of a couple of the transformers, and where ever it says Incenirator I believe it should say Blackout.

Linkage (http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showthread.php?t=4028)

Go down about a third of the way for the photobucket images, the second link in the main post doesn't work unless you have registered.

[Clareon Wolfeyes]

What the hell are with the flames on Optimus...man I don't like that.

[Tristate0999]

Ok...now this may frighten those of you who actually like transformers and care about their future...MEGATRON....NNNNOOOOO! (http://www.themovieblog.com/archives/2006/08/megatron_pictures.html)

If this is actually going to be Megatron...all I can say is wow. It doesn't even fit the transformers universe...at all. I don't see what's so wrong with actually having them be their G1 selves...who cares if they're missing parts when they transform. People are hyped about this movie because they get to relive their childhood, not see someone take a crap on it. I honestly hope this is not the real Megatron.

[togashi]

What the crap?

[Clareon Wolfeyes]

The poster further down was right, it looks more like The Guyver character.

[asquithfeare]

That's not megatron!!!!

What the heck???!!!

I dont' want to see that crap! I want to see the crap I loved as a kid. Stupid animator/movie peoples!!!

[Keaolien]

.........what the snap was that? A hentai tentacle sex character? GIVE US MEGATRON!!

[Tristate0999]

And from Aint't It Cool News...the new Optimus Prime (http://img432.imageshack.us/my.php?image=optimusprime1co5.jpg) Not even identifiable with the old prime save for his head. Thus far I am unimpressed with their bot modes.

[Clareon Wolfeyes]

Yeah they need toput a little meat on those metal bones, their to damn skinny.

[Tristate0999]

Ok, and optimus close up on the face and 2 more body shots...still don't like the designs all that much...linkage (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=24396)

Also someone from Ain't It Cool went to the set and did a huge write up (http://aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=24366) on it, I couldn't make it all the way through but it does contain minor spoilers

That's all I've found for now, and my interest in this movie is lessing with the focus being more on the actors rather than the robots at this point.

UPDATE:

Another trailer is up, this time it's a little more revealing. However, we still don't actually know if the transformers will talk or if it's just Optimus. Anyway here's the link to the trailer Transformers Trailer (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/transformers.html)

[Realmreaver]

If they didn't put the name Transformers in the Title it'd be good as is tho?


Ummm I'll pass thanks.

[barrelOfgoblins]

eh I dont like the way they made optimus prime : /

[Lyssa]

Hmmm, is it just me or in the second head pic does Optimus look somewhat like a cow? It's the peculiar nose that does it I think.

[Tristate0999]

Hmm...wells it's been awhile since anything has been posted in here, but recently I was at the movies and saw a brand new trailer. I was searching for it a good part (20 mins) of the morning before I headed off to work, but alas I couldn't find it. It did show Starscream transforming though, and a bunch of action shots. It also showed that Mr. Bay will not deviate from his action template (i.e. explosions out the wazoo!), which I will not complain about. I'll keep an eye out for the new trailer, but thus far I have been unsucessful.

Edit: I guess I wasn't trying all that hard. IGN (http://media.movies.ign.com/media/568/568421/vids_1.html) has a couple, and Sector7 (http://www.sectorseven.org/) has couple cool things as well. Log in with password FWIFFO.

[Rookie]

I just saw a commercial for it less than a week ago. Looks impressive so far. I was a hardcore transformers fan when i was little and i still have all of my transformers action figures all the way back to the original Beast Wars transformers.

[Saroc_Luclin]

2 months and change, and I can't wait. Gonna be thrilling to see them up on the big screen. (Especially since I never could see the toon-movie on the big screen. :( )

And yeah, lots of explosions, but this is Transformers. If there was ever a movie that demanded lots of BOOM, it was this one.

[Tristate0999]

Well the New York times has two pictures of the transformers movie, which can be viewed here (http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/05/04/transformers-latimes.jpg) and here (http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/05/04/transformers-latimes2.jpg)

The robot, not sure which one, looks pretty good. However, I'm getting the impression that the actors will take center stage and it'll be more about them as opposed to the transformers.

[Saroc_Luclin]

Looks like concept art and/or art from the comic book. For Free Comic Book Day last Saturday, I noticed they had the prequel comic issue 1 available (at least my store did). Haven't had a chance to read it yet though (FCBD my butt; picked up my free books and still left 85$ poorer. *G* ) If you check your local stores, they may still have some free books left over.

[Mordican]

Starting to see the movie posters for it now. They generally have 2 versions facing off against each other. One has Prime on it labeled "To Protect" and the other is Megatron that has "To Destroy".

Can't wait :)

[Tristate0999]

Michael Bay's blog (http://www.michaelbay.com/blog/newsblog.html) has some pictures up of the new transformers in their robot mode.

See Transformers transform in the newest trailer. Click here (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/transformers.html) and select any one of the flavors you wish of the "EXCLUSIVE TRAILER". It's a pretty action packed trailer. I won't ruin too much of it, so just go and watch it.

Posts merged. Easy Way #17.

[Nekojin]

I've seen a few different trailers so far, and I have yet to hear voices for the Transformers at all. Do they talk? Are they waiting on that because of foley issues? Or are they trying to spring voices that sound close to the original voices on us by surprise?

On a separate matter (Mildly spoily, but I don't usually consider details that are in official trailers to be true spoilers): In the trailer I saw before Shrek 3, they showed Optimus Prime's first truck-to-robot transformation in front of humans, and I thought it was a nice touch that, in addition to the mechanical-sounding noises of the transformation, you could also hear the "classic" cartoon transformation sound effect.

[Saroc_Luclin]

Yeah it was a nice effect though it also felt a bit out of place. Hopefully the movie will mix it in a bit better.

And the TFers will be talking. They have voice actors hired for all of them, including Optimus Prime's original voice actor. I suspect a trailer with some robot voices will be the last one released just before the movie is released. (Since the studio seems determined to draw out the anticipation as much as possible).

They did try to get Megatron's original voice actor as well, but apparently his voice has changed too much throuhg the years, so they went with the guy who's been doing Megs more recently.

[Cobble]

I am worried because personality is one of the things that made me love transformers so much growing up. These trailers IMHO are terrible unless you want this to be just a special effects laden action fest, which I for one do not want my transforms to be.

They look heartless and cold and devoid of any personality. meh

[Tristate0999]

These trailers IMHO are terrible unless you want this to be just a special effects laden action fest...

I'm going into this movie expecting little character development and tons of explosions and lots of pretty effects. So I think if I stay on this route througout the movie I will be good, and this will also happen going into the FF 2 movie as well.

[Mordican]

Starting to see a lot of ads for the cars in the movie that have their robot forms next to them. In the June issue of Maxim they have the Solstice / Jazz. There is also a contest to win a trip to the primer with the lead actress, whatever her name is.

http://www.maximonline.com/contests/pontiac/

[Saroc_Luclin]

Yeah, Transformers.com has the Movie toy line up now, and I've seen some of them in Wal*Mart last night. The toy line basically shows who all we can expect in the movie it seems, though I'm sure there are still a few more surprises in store. :)

[Lenardo]

cough cough...bump

movies opens july 2nd at 8pm now

i got tickets for me and the wife....

[Tristate0999]

cough cough...bump

movies opens july 2nd at 8pm now

i got tickets for me and the wife....

Take a camera for all the people dressing up like Transformers.

[Kikaro]

Okay, so I just got back from seeing this...

Now, before I say what I want to say, I have no real knowledge of the original transformers. I only knew who Megatron, Starscream, and Prime were... Yeah I know, sad.

Anyway, It was a good action flick. It had some of the cheesiest things, and some things that I thought were just too stupid to be in the movie. But, those aside, I enjoyed it.

Surprisingly, I actually enjoyed the soundtrack. The composer did a great job I thought, especially the music that was playing when the Autobots came to Earth.

I love music so shoot me.

Anyway, The two kids that sat next to me didnt seem to like it as they were asleep before the biggest action scene started. It was a little over two hours, so I didnt think it would be a problem for kids. But I dont know.

It wasnt as bad as I expected, the two kids did a great job with the roles they were given I thought. The goverment people needed to all be shot.

Some of the fight scenes I honestly could not tell which robot was which. It was so fast and blurry it was really confusing.

there is also an odd twist that is at the butt end. Apparently it was never in the series so people were kind of confused by it. I honestly had no idea it wasnt in the original. So it did not feel like a twist to me. But I cant really complain about that.

So all in all, I was thinking it was going to be a incredibly stupid movie, and I actually enjoyed it.

So its not as bad as everyone fears. I guess that is a good thing.

[Lithale]

I loved it. Just the right amount of cheese, action, and comedy. It was excellent brain candy. Two thumbs up.

[tuckerpb2]

there is also an odd twist that is at the butt end. Apparently it was never in the series so people were kind of confused by it. I honestly had no idea it wasnt in the original. So it did not feel like a twist to me. But I cant really complain about that.



if you are talking about what OP said to MEGA at the end. the ancer is no. I would like to post it, but with out the ablity to hide it under a spoiler tag it might ruin it for some people. tho if no one has I will post it in a fue days for you, or you can pm me.

[tuckerpb2]

_oops

[bob the goat]

I just got back from this movie. I can't tell everyone strongly enough how good this movie is. There was some cheese, but I still give it a 10. See this movie! See this movie! See this movie! If you can not afford it, get a job, sell some blood, sell a family heirloom, sell your kidney on the black market...SEE THIS MOVIE!

[Tristate0999]

I was pleasntly surprised with the movie. The graphics were amazing, and there was a nice balance between Transformers and humans on the screen. I'm fairly certain there will be a second movie, especially given the ending. Definately a must see movie.

[tuckerpb2]

I was pleasntly surprised with the movie. The graphics were amazing, and there was a nice balance between Transformers and humans on the screen. I'm fairly certain there will be a second movie, especially given the ending. Definately a must see movie.

Maby unicron will make it into the next one.


p.s. the voice of OP is the same person that did it in the origonal series. The director felt he had the most fatherly voice.

[Saroc_Luclin]

Yup, the next movie was already greenlit, and the director has said he wants to bring in Grimlock, Soundwave and Jetfire among others.

I'm a bit disappointed by one event in the movie, but not overly. It was a great movie. (Though like a typical Bay movie, time of day and location distances were played for the scene, not for any basis in reality; that or there is an LA-sized-not-Vegas city REALLY close to the Hoover Dam in TFer-Movie Universe. :) )

[Lithale]

They referred to the city as Mission City. I believe it was supposed to be fictional.

[Mordican]

Well it was what it was, a standard block buster type summer movie. From an action perspective it was good. From a graphics perspective it was good. From a storyline perspective, ehhh... It was almost too cheesy, it almost had too much humor in it, and it had holes everywhere. But in the end I liked it for what it was.

If I had to pick between this one and the original animated movie, the animated one would win hands down.

As a side note... I read the "Authorized movie prequel" book and I have to say they should unauthorize it.

[Mordican]

if you are talking about what OP said to MEGA at the end. the ancer is no. I would like to post it, but with out the ablity to hide it under a spoiler tag it might ruin it for some people. tho if no one has I will post it in a fue days for you, or you can pm me.

You can still do it, use the SPOILER and /SPOILER commands with brackets around them. See:



Hi

[Puckster]

I just got back from seeing it. Considering I saw every original episode at least 3 times and (still) have most of the original figures (including Jetfire), I thought they did a really good job of it. Yeah it has some cheese in it. It's a Michael Bay movie. I laughed and so did most of the audience.
I liked that they didn't over do the number of Transformers. Overall, I'm extremely happy by the way it was done.

[Breandan]

The Sector 7 guy was a detraction from the movie, but otherwise it kicked butt :D

[lakoda]

I just got back from the theater - I loved the movie, the pace was very constant and the story was pretty solid. I liked the cheese, it reminded me of Saturday morning cartoons.

However, I have some questions about the beginning of the movie and seem a little "too convenient" or maybe just over my head. Someone here will set me straight I'm sure of it.


Why didn't the Decepticons attack a lot sooner? If they attacked years sooner the US wouldn't have had as strong of network security, like say right before the internet boom. Or even before that? When did they show up, dates are stated for almost every other event except for the the Autobots and Decepticons showing up, that's kind of inconsistent and it bugs me, especially given how precise everything else felt..

How did the Autobots know to protect the kid? How the hell did the Autobots know the glasses were important? I could see the Decepticons knowing because they had the file and saw a picture of them and noticed the mark but the Autobots wouldn't have, unless they very conveniently saw them on eBay.

For that matter how did they know the US military had that information? I don't want all these questions answered, it isn't needed, but if the begining would have answered some of them it would have allowed for reasonable assumptions that would have made the beginning better for me.

How did the Decepticons know to come to earth in the first place with Megatron disabled? There was such a large time gap between when Megatron crashed and the present, not to mention between his crash and the finding. I have a hard time saying it took them that long to find Earth or to get to Earth. If it took them so long to find Earth it's too much of a coincidence for me. If it took them that long to get there, it will be the first rule that gets broken in the sequel, as OP little message at the end will result in more Autobots within a few years at most, implying a faster then light travel.

It is a lot of coincidences in the beginning of the movie (the rest of the movie felt solid though). It seems to me that something is missing, some random event that alerted both sides.


Anyways, I know that is a lot and I know it is nit-picky but it's driving me nuts. I don't usually get like this over movies but this bugs me a lot...probably because of the subject matter ;).

Thanks in advance and if you haven't seen it, GO!
~Lakoda

[tuckerpb2]

if you are talking about what OP said to MEGA at the end. the ancer is no. I would like to post it, but with out the ablity to hide it under a spoiler tag it might ruin it for some people. tho if no one has I will post it in a fue days for you, or you can pm me.


First op looked a lot different when he was first built. when he was a "teenager" he saw megatron and others that became deceptacons flying thrue the air and was envious of there flight abilities. His teacher was an older autobot called alpha trion. Well when megatron attacked op stood up to him and megatron destroyed him. Before he could die. Alpha Trion rebuilt him into the modern OP.
And now you know the rest of the story.

[Kallysti]

Whoa. That movie was pure awesomeness. I felt like a kid again. I was afraid I'd built it up in my head too much, that it wouldn't live up to what I imagined. I was wrong. In the best way possible.

If you loved them as a child, see it.

As my sweetie said:
I'll say right now... no, it didn't have a very in-depth plot. No, it won't win any awards for the acting. It doesn't matter, and I don't care. I feel like I'm 10 again, and that's more than any award winning film has ever done before.
That about sums it up.

[Whytewulf]

That was fun.. Perfect summer movie. Can't wait till 2009 and Transformers 2.

[Saroc_Luclin]

I just got back from the theater - I loved the movie, the pace was very constant and the story was pretty solid. I liked the cheese, it reminded me of Saturday morning cartoons.

However, I have some questions about the beginning of the movie and seem a little "too convenient" or maybe just over my head. Someone here will set me straight I'm sure of it.



It is a lot of coincidences in the beginning of the movie (the rest of the movie felt solid though). It seems to me that something is missing, some random event that alerted both sides.


~Lakoda

To answer, or at least guess at your spoiler'ed questions lets see.

I haven't read all of the prequel comics yet (may try to find the rest sometime soonish), so I may be wrong. Still let's see....


My guess for the time line is as follows:

Megatron is searching for the All Spark with the rest of the 'cons. He comes into our region of space and picks it up, but misjudges his entry into the atmosphere and crashes and freezes in the arctic.

Fast forward a few thousand years.

Bumblebee (as seen in the one prequel comic I HAVE read) was one of the last Autobot guardians of the All Spark and was the one who actually launched it into space. So he was probably one of the few who had a semi-decent guesstimate of where it was and picked his search area appropriately. His own search group (with Prime, Jazz, Ironhide and Ratchet) eventually reach the Solar region of space, and BB settles on Earth to examine closer, tapping into the 'net and finding clues, eventually leading to the Whitwicky connection. He sets himself up to be 'bought' as Sam's new car and signals the 'bots that he has found something.

Actually, now that I think of it more, I suspect that Bumblebee knew EXACTLY where the All Spark was (or at least the planet it was on), but kept the location secret as long as the Decepticons were a threat. The 'bots likely had a long term plan of putting up the appearance of searching for the All Spark to keep the Cons searching, and to thin out the ranks of the Decepticons in the universe. When the numbers were low enough, Prime would probably have ordered BB to retrieve the All Spark and restore Cybertron. BB meanwhile was hiding on earth, had likely made the Whitwicky connection ages ago, but was just waiting and listening for any evidence the 'Cons had found Earth and Megs. Once he saw evidence of the Cons searching on Earth, he figured the jig was up, signaled in the reinforcements and moved in to more closely protect Sam (and the glasses)

Starscream's group of 'cons, on the other hand, are the ones exploring the Solar region as well and check out Mars first for some reason (maybe they started on the outer planets first and were working their way inward). The Beagle rover may have been enough to make them leave Mars and move in on Earth sooner; or maybe they were done with Mars and ready for Earth anyways. Maybe when Megs was briefly activated by Granddaddy Whitwicky, a signal got out indicating roughly where he was, but it took a few decades to reach a Decepticon sensor and it wasn't strong enough to isolate which planet.

In any case, the 'cons have the appearance of being fairly new arrivals on Earth; most likely their searches were just beginning, and they weren't really sure what they were searching for. Being the biggest landmass on the planet, starting on Afri-Eurasia makes sense. Likely Starscream and the other cons were busy in Russian, Chinese and European military bases as well as the US base we saw Blackout and Scroponok take on. Even though he was cut off, Blackout likely got enough information to signal the others to refocus their searches on American based assets for more info; leading to the Frenzy infiltration of Air Force One and the Whitwicky connection.



In any case, I loved the movie, but I feel the Section 7 part (the 3rd quarter basically) could have been handled better. The lead agent was played wrongly IMO and it threw off the movie a bit. Then again, in hind sight Section 7 does harken back to the 80's style toon in some ways so that may have been the intention somewhat.

[Poofe 'n Evandril]

My take on one of the questions ;) Know I loved the movie, and will be buying it ASAP.

It seemed like Megs naviagtion system had been activated, not a distress beacon or the like, where as Optimus sent out a deliberate signal. Sorta like trying to locate someone lost in the woods who started a small fire, vs one who spelled out 'help' with signal flares...Or a better way to look at it...trying to find the same person with an active cellphone that's not being used vs an ELT (Emergency Locator Transmitter, will spot him from the next state, easy)

[lakoda]

Actually, now that I think of it more, I suspect that Bumblebee knew EXACTLY where the All Spark was (or at least the planet it was on), but kept the location secret as long as the Decepticons were a threat. The 'bots likely had a long term plan of putting up the appearance of searching for the All Spark to keep the Cons searching, and to thin out the ranks of the Decepticons in the universe. When the numbers were low enough, Prime would probably have ordered BB to retrieve the All Spark and restore Cybertron. BB meanwhile was hiding on earth, had likely made the Whitwicky connection ages ago, but was just waiting and listening for any evidence the 'Cons had found Earth and Megs. Once he saw evidence of the Cons searching on Earth, he figured the jig was up, signaled in the reinforcements and moved in to more closely protect Sam (and the glasses)


THX! This makes the most sense to me. A lot of what you said I kind of guessed at myself but I couldn't come up with character motivation and thats what bugged me the most. The more I thought about it all the more a lot of the implied stuff started to make sense (like the Decepticons being new arrivals).

Newb question time... Prequel comics? Huh what, material specific to the movie plot line?

I really liked this movie, if tix prices weren't so ridiculous I would go see this a three or four times.

[Saroc_Luclin]

A friend of mine saw it 3 times on July 4th, and would have gone a 4th if his body was willing. :)

A comic company (you'll probably have to go to an actual comic book shop) released a series of prequel comics and comic adaptations of hte movie.

The first prequel comic was released on Free Comic Book Day and was one of the free ones (and available for sale too), not sure how many more there were. I've heard they aren't all that great though, but YMMV.

The adaptation books were released in the 4 weeks leading up to the movie release, 1 book a week. I only got 2 of them so far.

[lakoda]

Sweet, I found them (well it (http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Movie-Prequel/dp/160010066X/sr=1-3/qid=1170789931/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/002-8197477-7228035?ie=UTF8&s=books), as it is in a compilation on amazon)

Thanks again!

[Saroc_Luclin]

Yeah I found the compilation at Chapters last nite (Canadian big box bookstore) so you could probably have found them there too. Haven't gotten around to reading it yet though. (Raid night + Harry Potter. :) )

[Tenolein]

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Because we were so strapped for money when this movie was released (thanks to our wedding.. lol) I missed it.

Then, this past weekend, it was re-released in the iMax theater in Bloomington, MN (suburb South of Minneapolis, a good 30-40 minute jaunt from our apartment). We were planning to go see it there. But missed it again (thanks to other plans popping up). I don't know how long Transformers will be on the iMax, but I hope for at least another weekend, or so.

Otherwise, I'm screwed until the movie is on DVD.

-=dies=-