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Erling E.
05-22-2006, 10:49 AM
http://www.wtcmovie.com

So here it is. It is coming. The movie based on 9/11, directed by Oliver Stone and starring Nicholas Cage. I just watched the trailer and found it very moving. Very Hollywood, but still very moving. I'm definetly going to see it. I heard from news reports that a bunch of movie critics in Cannes found it extremely good (they got to see 20 minutes of it), so at least it isn't cut down by the critics just yet.

I'm sure this movie is going to be incredibly controversial. Some will say it is too early to make a movie about it, while others will say that no one should make a movie about it at all. I'm one of those who are all for this movie being made. As long as they do this movie right, responsibly and treat the story with dignity, I don't see why it shouldn't be made. Hollywood has made movies on just about every tragedy that has hit the world, and I think 9/11 shouldn't be treated any differently.

Let's just hope it dosn't turn out to be "a popcorn movie".

Zarithar
05-25-2006, 11:39 AM
My only comment on this one is... like Flight 93, I won't be seeing it.

Keaolien
05-25-2006, 01:15 PM
Y'know, not to sound callous of mean....but really, I think we ALL know how This movie and Flight 93 ends....Save your money and just honour the memory of all those people. You don't need a movie to remember.

asquithfeare
05-25-2006, 01:39 PM
No not everyone needs a movie to remember, but some do. I'm glad they are making these movies, but that's just me.

One-Winged Angel
05-25-2006, 03:02 PM
Won't see it. I'll never forget that day. I was at school, and we watched as the towers fell. I don't want to see it again, especially from someone's perspective inside the place. The memory digs itself up every day, I don't need salt in the wounds.

Lirren
05-26-2006, 05:18 AM
Like Flight 93, I'm sure it will be a very powerful movie. But like Flight 93, I won't be seeing it. I remember far too much about that day already.

Ambrya
05-26-2006, 09:16 AM
I was reading an editorial in our newspaper a few weeks ago about the Flight 93 movie, and they brought up what may be, perhaps, the ONLY valid reason for these movies to exist, and that is future generations.

I remember 9/11 clear as anything, and I'll never forget a second of that day. The same cannot be said for Ambrya 2.0 (not under development just yet, but in pre-production.) Someday, Ambrya 2.0 is going to need to understand just how earth-shattering that day was, and how many repercussions there have been that are going to affect his/her life. I don't know if just giving an historical analysis or even an anecdotal recounting of the events will completely get that through, so I'll take whatever visual aids I can get.

I will not, however, be watching those movies until that day comes.

KaiTenSatsuma
05-26-2006, 10:37 AM
media hounds... want to make a buck off of anything they can.

and wtf is with them picking nick cage? is he going to play an FBI agent again? maybe a redneck?

i was there on the day, i was worried like hell, that night i fell asleep thinking "maybe we're next?"

bastards...

Erling E.
05-26-2006, 03:34 PM
KaiTenSatsuma: I don't really see how movie makers are media hounds? As for Cage, he plays a police officer in the movie. Apparantly, the movie is based on the story of two police officers who survived that day.

Movies are an incredibly powerful medium, and while us who are around right now may say that "we don't need to revisit this", I think this will help future generations understand what happened. It will also serve as a good way to tell this story to individuals of this future generation, who may read about it in history books and considering it too boring to investigate themselves. This is also a movie for the world, not just Americans. 9/11 stopped being just an American tragedy when it became the catalyst for the war on terror, a war which most nations have been included in (my own nation have provided military assistance in both Afghanistan and Iraq).

I really understand why many people will stay away from this movie, though. I think it will be a movie for the future, something that will be appreciated more when people get som distance to 9/11 and starts looking at it with historical eyes. Whether that will happen in 5, 10 or 50 years - I don't know - but eventually it will go into the history books the same way as Pearl Harbor, the Vietnam war and even the Titanic tragedy. It is unfortunate that many people consider it a bad thing that a movie on 9/11 is being made, because I personally think it is a fantastic way to record it for history. They are going to do books about this - why not a movie?

That is why I really hope they turn it into a movie that handles the story with dignity. I hope it will be historically accurate, and I hope they will shy away from using devices that could turn it into a Hollywood action movie.

KaiTenSatsuma
05-26-2006, 04:29 PM
KaiTenSatsuma: I don't really see how movie makers are media hounds? As for Cage, he plays a police officer in the movie. Apparantly, the movie is based on the story of two police officers who survived that day.

Movies are an incredibly powerful medium, and while us who are around right now may say that "we don't need to revisit this", I think this will help future generations understand what happened. It will also serve as a good way to tell this story to individuals of this future generation, who may read about it in history books and considering it too boring to investigate themselves. This is also a movie for the world, not just Americans. 9/11 stopped being just an American tragedy when it became the catalyst for the war on terror, a war which most nations have been included in (my own nation have provided military assistance in both Afghanistan and Iraq).

I really understand why many people will stay away from this movie, though. I think it will be a movie for the future, something that will be appreciated more when people get som distance to 9/11 and starts looking at it with historical eyes. Whether that will happen in 5, 10 or 50 years - I don't know - but eventually it will go into the history books the same way as Pearl Harbor, the Vietnam war and even the Titanic tragedy. It is unfortunate that many people consider it a bad thing that a movie on 9/11 is being made, because I personally think it is a fantastic way to record it for history. They are going to do books about this - why not a movie?

That is why I really hope they turn it into a movie that handles the story with dignity. I hope it will be historically accurate, and I hope they will shy away from using devices that could turn it into a Hollywood action movie.


i dunno, thought the "media hounds" thing up, technically those would be papparazi? sounded cool when i typed it .

just the thing is: usually when they make this sort of film, theyre aiming to make cash off of it, not to remind people of how awful it was, in fact, there was a 9/11 film that came out before this talking about everything that was suspicious about it wasnt there?

lets hope they dont make it an action movie, actually im curious how they COULD make it an action movie...

Kikaro
05-26-2006, 04:40 PM
I have mixed feelings about this. As well as the united 93 or whatever its called.

I mean, I guess its ok to make a movie about it, I figured they would sooner or later... But I dont know if I could sit through and watch it.

I wasnt in New York but I was out of town when it happened and watching it on TV in the hotel was enough for me.

I dont want to see it again... Its ok if they want to make the move, but I just dont think I can see it yet...

Kaylen
05-29-2006, 02:08 PM
Watching the trailer at the very least before speculating about how it will be may be a worthwhile investment of time.

I have no attachment to that day, so for me it'd be another Ladder 49 (a movie I utterly hated). Some build up, showing that they're all nice family people, then something collapses and they're stuck for a boring hour of screen time, some of them die, some of them make it. Boring. And don't misinterpret that; I wasn't sitting around watching people die in a fiery mess and complaining about how boring it is, I'm talking about the movie and the movie alone.

However, I'm sure it will be dramatic and the two films will be very useful for showing future generations how most of the country felt that day. Most people "never forget" to show their patriotism, but as with the Alamo and the Maine, we should never forget because it shows us that we are not impervious.

Zarithar
05-31-2006, 11:36 AM
That's what I got out of watching the trailer. Alot of syrupy references to the families etc. of the people involved. It actually sickens me that Hollywood is attempting to profit off of a tragedy which is still so fresh in the minds of many. I don't think it honors the people involved, and this goes for both United 93 and this new 9/11 movie.

It would be a different matter if they made the movie 50 years from now, but I think it's just too soon, and a blatant attempt to tug on people's heartstrings in order to get to their wallets. It reminds me of all the junk mail I get with pictures of puppies and children... inevitably asking me for money which may or may not benefit said puppies and children.

Insomniac
05-31-2006, 01:56 PM
Accuracy is the thing here. If they made it 50 years from now, how accurate would it be?
I won't be seeing it. It's too much, too soon for me. My sister was working a block away, and we didn't hear from her for two days.

My hope is that they don't put a political spin on it, and, for God's sake, don't make those animals out to be tragic characters.

Whytewulf
06-01-2006, 01:53 PM
My hope is that they don't put a political spin on it, and, for God's sake, don't make those animals out to be tragic characters.

My opinion as well. And with Stone.. who knows..

I won't go see it, just like any other movie on it, for a long time. Too much too soon. People like to compare this to the WWI, WWII and other war movies. War is one thing about strategy and not pure tragedy. In addtion, we can see the actual footage of 9/11 anytime we want on the web. Movies back in the day showed things we didn't know, again the war strategies. Eventually you had minor stories about the wars (Saving Private Ryan) that were almost fiction but sentimental. I compare this mostly to something like Schindlers List. A movie made 50+ years after and still utterly painful. Made in a documentary sort of way and not a popcorn movie. I like Nick Cage but to make this movie they should have used lesser known actors. I would also like to see profits going to something other than studios.

I don't wrong them for making it if it done right, but I would have waited 5 more years.

BolarGimack
06-01-2006, 05:41 PM
Those 2 men were in a BF2 clan mates squad. That sgt was his sgt. I know the full story on this movie and definately won't see it. To read his acct of it and to hear him talk of it. It would tear your heart out. To see a movie? I don't think I could stomach that.

B_Delacroix
06-02-2006, 09:10 AM
More power to them. I hope they don't embellish too much, ideally not at all.

For myself, I am saturated with these kinds of movies. It is definately for future generations and not for those of us where were alive and aware when it happened.